BUDGET COMMITTEE

Special Budget Review

September 19, 2011

 

** NOT APPROVED **


Committee Members Present:  T. Hopkins, D. Fanton, D. Cady, P. Curran, K. LaForge, T. O’Grady, C. Crandall  

 

Others Present:  M. Alger, D. Burdick, L. Hoyt, T. Hull, J. Margeson, B. Riehle, T. Ross, F. Sinclair

 

Call to Order:   Budget Committee Chairman Theodore Hopkins called the meeting to order at 3 p.m.

 

 

2012 Preliminary Budget

 

            County Administrator/Budget Officer John Margeson stated that a week ago, the tax levy required to balance the budget stood at $31,034,257.  Since then Mr. Margeson has amended the preliminary budget by either making cuts or changes in revenue that have reduced the amount needed to be raised by real property taxes by $1,169,400, so today $29,864,857 would be needed by the real property tax levy to balance the budget.      

 

            Mr. Margeson stated that County Treasurer Terri Ross has calculated the maximum allowable levy for 2012 based on property tax legislation and exclusions that get factored into that which are essentially any amount that exceeds 2 percent of the retirement bill along with the differences in the pilot payments we received from 2010 to 2011.  The pilot payment amounts make a very small difference of approximately $7,000.  Based on where we are at and the maximum levy of $28,243,717 that can be imposed, we would need to take $1,621,140 out of fund balance to get below the 2 percent property tax cap.  It was noted that these figures do not include any corrections or charge backs. 

           

            Budget Committee Chairman Ted Hopkins requested Mr. Margeson to go through the $1,169,400 in changes he made, and Mr. Margeson recited the following:

 

On the Appropriation Side:

·         $25,400 was taken from various .1 accounts

·         A9030.803 (Social Security) was reduced by $150,000

·         A9010.802 (State Retirement) was reduced by $200,000

·         County Road Fund Balance was reduced by $200,000

·         Road Machinery Fund Balance was reduced by $100,000

·         Self-Insurance Group Fund Balances were reduced by $75,000

·         Debt Service Fund Balance was reduced by $50,000

·         A1171.430 (Assigned Counsel) was reduced by $25,000

·         A1450.419 (Elections-Printing) was increased by $6,000

 

On the Revenue Side:

·         A02.1809.00 (Repay Aid to Dependent Children) was increased by $25,000

·         A07.2690.00 (Tobacco Settlement) was increased by $25,000

·         A08.2701.04 (Refund Prior Year Expenses-Medicaid) was increased by $50,000

·         A11.4615.00 (DSS FFFS) was increased by $250,000

           

 

 

The above can be summarized as follows:

 

Real Property Tax needed as of September 12, 2011                      $31,034,257

            Budget Officer Adjustment to Tentative After September 12                        $  1,169,400

            Real Property Tax needed as of September 19, 2011                      $29,864,857

            Maximum Allowable Levy for 2012                                                    $28,243,717

            Amount Needed from Fund Balance to Stay Within Cap                  $  1,621,140

 

            Legislator Fred Sinclair asked if the New York State Retirement Bill has been paid, and Ms. Ross indicated that it would be paid on December 15.

 

            Legislator Timothy O’Grady stated that without any cushion, our fund balance is not going to be as rich as it has been in the past.  It sounds like everyone wants to use the fund balance to balance the budget, but we won’t have a balance at the end of the year like we have the last few years so it will run out quickly.  We really need to budget leaner.  Legislator Dwight Fanton stated that our Sales Tax Revenue should be about $1.35 million higher than budgeted so that would make up for what we are taking out of fund balance to balance the 2012 budget.  Legislator Philip Curran stated that you can’t plan on that growth. 

 

            Treasurer Ross talked about needing to make some adjustments to the 2011 budget for the contract settlements; however, there was money put aside to make these adjustments. 

 

 

Tentative Assessed Value

 

            Ms. Ross stated that Real Property Tax Director Steve Presutti informed her that the tentative assessed value is $1,671,499,079.  This figure represents a $43 million increase over last year’s figure of $1,628,184,581.

 

 

Tax Levy Cap

 

            Ms. Ross distributed copies of a spreadsheet (attached to original minutes) regarding the tax levy cap and associated calculations as follows:

 

Levy Using CAP 2.6%

 

            Balance to be Raised by Real Property Taxes = $28,243,717 (2011 figure = $27,527,083).  This would result in a $716,634 increase in levy over the previous year, and a .01 decrease in the tax rate per thousand.

 

            Average County Tax Rate = $16.897237549 (2011 figure = $16.906610787).  This would result in a 2.60 percent increase in the tax levy, and a .06 percent decrease in the tax rate.

 

            County Taxable Assessed Value = $1,671,499,079 (2011 figure = $1,628,184,581).  This represents a $43,314,498 increase in taxable assessed value.

 

            It was noted that the total 2012 preliminary budget calls for appropriations of $113,288,688 which represents a decrease of $10,132,769 from the 2011 budget of $123,421,457.  There was a corresponding decrease on the revenue side as most of this decrease was because of the way food stamps are now being processed.

 

 

 

 

Levy as of Now – Over the CAP

 

            Balance to be Raised by Real Property Taxes = $29,864,857.  This represents a $2,337,774 increase in the levy over last year, and a .96 increase in the tax rate per thousand.

 

            Average County Tax Rate = $17.867109456.  This represents an 8.49 percent increase in the tax levy, and a 5.68 percent increase in the tax rate. 

 

 

Levy with 0% Increase

 

            Balance to be Raised by Real Property Taxes = $27,527,083.  This represents a .44 decrease in the tax rate per thousand. 

 

            Average County Tax Rate = $16.468500250.  This represents a zero percent increase in the tax levy, and a 2.59 percent decrease in the tax rate.

 

            As we stand right now, it would take $2.3 million for us to get to a zero percent increase.

 

 

Comments Regarding Cap

 

            Legislator Philip Curran stated that if we have the same situation next year, we will have to cut people because there won’t be a lot of other things like machinery to cut.

 

            Chairman Curtis Crandall stated a number of years ago, the Board created a tax stabilization fund with the tobacco money, and we funded it briefly.  The point was to put money away to even things out in hard years.  We are using the “piggy bank” now, but this scenario can’t sustain itself, and we will eventually use all of the money up.  Chairman Crandall talked about some of the mandates and stated that hopefully the state will address some of the things that are driving the tax rate up.  Many counties are in worse shape than we are because they don’t have a fund balance to fall back on.  Something has to give on the upper level because we cannot continue to sustain things the way they are.

 

            Legislator Ted Hopkins stated that if the Governor really wants to have the State open for business, there still needs to be additional changes in what’s driving costs.  The cap may end up being a good thing, and hopefully we can ride it out for a few years.  We have to start lowering property taxes.

 

            Treasurer Terri Ross stated that she thinks this is terrible for the taxpayer.  They think their taxes are going to go down, and they aren’t.  In addition, counties are so focused on settling for the 2 percent cap, that they end up settling when they reach that point, rather than looking harder to further reduce the budget. 

 

            Legislator Tim O’Grady asserted that we should be looking at a combination of cuts and use of fund balance, noting that last year we took almost $1 million to balance the budget, and this year we are putting in $1.6 million.  How long do we go?  Ms. Ross commented that it is very difficult to recoup these funds.

 

 

Consolidation

 

            Legislator Kevin LaForge stated that the towns and villages will be under even more pressure than we are.  Perhaps we should take more money from fund balance to look at a realistic study of consolidation.  A well planned strategy for consolidation may be well received in many circles.  Legislator Dwight Fanton briefly talked about the differences in town budgets and staff, noting that he believes it would be very difficult for them to consolidate.   Committee members briefly discussed how grant funding that was going to be available for shared services was swept off to combine with the Governor’s funding proposals.  Those funds need to be reapplied for after October 1.

 

 

Payments on Courthouse Project

 

            Legislator Doug Burdick asked about the payments on the Courthouse Project, and Ms. Ross stated that our payment will be $340,000 in principle and $772,000 in interest.  Legislator Don Cady stated that if we were to use our fund balance to pay off the Courthouse Project, we could save $700,000 in interest each year.  Mr. Margeson stated that he wouldn’t recommend doing that because we receive about $260,000 in federal money as an interest subsidy.  In addition, of the $700,000 in interest we pay, we end up recouping approximately $500,000. 

 

 

Budgeting

 

            Legislator Dwight Fanton asked Mr. Margeson where he could find another $500,000, and Mr. Margeson responded that they would have to eliminate the Office for the Aging to find another $500,000. 

 

            Legislator O’Grady stated that our problem is with personnel.  Although our WIC Program brings a lot of money into the County, the personnel to run that program are not free.  The overhead of the retirement fund alone is a huge expense.  Legislator Curran agreed that the long-term costs of personnel are going to kill us.  Legislator O’Grady indicated that if the County wants to maintain all of the current services, they have to be paid for.  Legislator O’Grady believes it would be better to do a few things well, than all of the extra things.  We cannot maintain services without raising taxes.  Legislator Hopkins stated that we have all of these social programs that we are required to provide, and then we can’t afford to offer some of the programs that we would like to offer.

 

            Legislator Ted Hopkins stated that he believes it’s prudent to take the $1.6 million out of fund balance to balance the budget at this time. It was noted that we currently have approximately $15 million in our fund balance.  Legislator Fanton stated that we will have to look at services again next year, but he is not in favor of cutting any services at this time.  Legislator Philip Curran suggested that the committee should ask the departments to cut their own budgets by a certain percentage next year, noting that they would have a year to plan for it. 

 

            Chairman Crandall stated that there is only so much that you can take out of operating expenses without looking at programs. Chairman Crandall noted that we have already cut quite a few positions. We can’t continue to operate state mandated programs.  Allegany County is already pretty lean compared to many other counties.

 

            Legislator Fred Sinclair asked what happened to the idea of passing an override in January.  Legislator O’Grady stated he is personally not in favor of that, and he believes that we need to live within our means.  Legislator O’Grady stated that if you do what Legislator Curran suggests, you may be surprised where the savings might appear.

 

            Budget Chairman Ted Hopkins asked if all committee members were in favor of using $1.6 million from fund balance to balance the budget.  Legislator O’Grady stated that he is against using fund balance.  Chairman Crandall stated that the committee can still make changes after the Tentative Budget is filed.  We are still going to be looking at firmer figures and adjustments that need to be made. 

 

 

 

 

Investing in the Future

 

            Legislator Mike Healy stated that the single best thing we could do would be to invest some money in Belvidere.  It would bring in additional property tax and sales tax revenue.  You could use that same money to offset your budget, and then it will be gone.  It needs to be invested in something. 

 

 

Future Meetings

 

            The Budget Committee meeting scheduled for Wednesday, September 21, 2011, will be cancelled.  There will be a special Committee of the Whole meeting to review the 2012 Tentative Budget on Monday, October 24, at 9 a.m.

 

 

Adjournment

 

There being no further business to come before the committee, a motion was made by Legislator O’Grady, seconded by Legislator Curran and carried to adjourn the meeting at 4:05 p.m.

 

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

Brenda Rigby Riehle, Clerk of the Board

Allegany County Board of Legislators