COURT
FACILITIES AND
MAY 7, 2008
** NOT APPROVED
Members Present: D. Pullen, D. Fanton, T.
Hopkins, T. O’Grady, C. Crandall
(Absent: G. Benson, W. Hall)
Others Present: W. Dibble, W. Emerson, A. Finnemore, J.
Foels, P. Fogarty, K. Johnson, K. Kruger, J. Margeson, P. Mashtare, K. Toot, N.
Ungermann; Media: B. Quinn, Wellsville
Daily Reporter
Call to Order: 3:00 p.m. by Committee Chairman David Pullen.
Approval of
Minutes: The minutes of April 9, 2008 were approved
following a motion made by Fanton, seconded by
LaBella Update on Courthouse Addition and
(Penny Mashtare)
Courthouse Addition Floor Plan Changes:
The following changes have been made in response to comments
made by David Pullen and Ed Rodman:
Ground Floor:
Main (First) Floor:
·
Floor levels are flush
between the addition and the Courthouse.
·
Added a door through
the Surrogate Court Clerk area to Family Court for secure staff travel.
·
Added toilet/sink
units to holding cells. All four holding
cells will remain per OCA.
·
Server rooms are
needed on all levels per OCA; restrooms are stacked over each other on all
three levels.
Upper (Second) Floor:
·
The floor level
of the addition ramps up 18” higher than the Courthouse (ramping angles are
legal at 1” in 12”, meaning if the ramping is 18” high, the corridor is 18 feet
long). Railings will be installed all
along the ramps.
·
Added a pass-through
door in the jury deliberation room to allow staff access to restrooms and exits
without traveling through public areas.
·
Furniture is now included
in the drawings. The hearing room has
been laid out and sent to OCA for review.
Proposed Courthouse Addition Elevations Review:
Building materials and window type were discussed. LaBella is trying to mimic the front of the
existing Courthouse with the design of the employee entrance in the addition,
but it won’t be as dramatic. The windows
are fixed aluminum units that look like the original double hung windows. They will use a similar brick finish with
precast heads and sills to pick up some of the detail from the original
building.
Proposed Site Plan Review:
There are currently 141 parking spaces in back, including
three handicapped spaces, but not accounting for any double parking. The proposal retains 99 parking spaces,
including nine handicapped spaces, or a loss of 42. There will be room for dumpsters behind the addition
on the river side, and they can be accessed by truck. A handicapped ramp is included along the sidewalk
of the addition. The addition will be
constructed about one foot away from the Courthouse to avoid disturbing the
existing footings.
Discussion was held on the possibility of moving one or
the other of the monuments on the front lawn to allow for additional parking in
front. Concern was also raised about the
double parking that takes place in the back of the Courthouse, which in reality
brings the number of lost parking spaces closer to 60 than 42, although some
are not “legal,” marked-off spaces.
Mr. Fanton suggested driving piling and backfilling to
extend the width of the current single-lane exit from the back parking lot into
a two-lane entrance/exit, and also extending the back lot along that same side to
recoup some of the lost parking spaces.
The County’s Department of Public Works could do the work prior to the construction
of the addition.
Ms. Mashtare noted that all of Mr. Pullen’s and Mr. Rodman’s
suggestions have been addressed, and changes have been made if possible.
LaBella completed all meetings with the
Ground Floor:
Main (First) Floor:
Second Floor:
Third Floor (former Jail):
The program was developed by figuring the requirements
for staff and adding 20 percent for circulation and walls. Buildings and Grounds has not been assigned
yet. Unassigned space in the addition
ground floor still contains 6,362 sf. The
use of the former Sally Port is ideal for operating some of Buildings and
Grounds’ equipment, rather than running it in the addition ground floor
unassigned space under office spaces. It
was suggested to consider moving Department of Motor Vehicles to the building
currently housing the Support Unit, but that building has handicapped
inaccessibility and asbestos problems. The
Health Department has been laid out and completely fills out the ground floor.
Mr. Margeson commented that this plan addresses our needs
quite well. Agencies still not addressed
are the Youth Program, Workers’ Compensation, Weights and Measures, and Mental Health
Services. Ms. Mashtare pointed out that
there are still some unassigned spaces.
If one of those agencies is small enough, such as the Veterans’ Service
Agency which hasn’t been assigned yet, it could be put in one of those spaces
very easily. Mr. Margeson noted that all
departments are gaining. Needed filing
space and cramping have been addressed.
Departments realize they will not get the space included in a previous
space study, and some programs have changed since then as well. The approach used was to look at the space
and try to give additional space where it’s needed.
Mr. Dibble reported on some information he gathered at an
Alfred State College meeting on “Growing Greener” grant money that’s
available. Ms. Mashtare pointed out that
some of those funds are not initial right at the start and take a 12-month
period of time to apply. Usually it
takes until after the building is completed to be reimbursed.
Next Steps:
After the committee approves these tentative
A
motion was made by Fanton, seconded by O’Grady and carried to accept the tentative
design and proposal for the
The elevator issue was discussed, comparing advantages of
renovating one or the other. The holding
cell elevator doesn’t enter the DSS floor.
The main elevator is more central to the public and main traffic floors
and works in better with screening of the public.
Mr. Pullen noted that tentatively we’re looking at a
schedule of July or August to have the Capital Facilities Plan approved with cost
estimates in order to look at the bond resolution. So far, we don’t know if we have a plan that
will be approved by OCA. Following a phone
call from Andrew Isenberg, Mr. Pullen spoke with LaBella about taking plan
revisions to
Referrals:
A referral was made at the April 14, 2008 Legislative
Board Meeting, per Resolution No. 66-08, regarding a Memorandum of
Understanding with the Allegany County Industrial
Mr. Crandall noted that the Office for the Aging
facilities issue was discussed during the Senior Forum held on April 18. Comments were offered on putting up a
building on County-owned land near the new Jail, utilizing space at the former
Mr. Pullen questioned how to go about pursuing the other
options. The
For the property next to the Jail, Mr. Ungermann stated
that estimates for metal buildings were just done for Public Works three or
four weeks ago. Mr. Fanton commented
that those estimates would be for shell space, and we could expand on that with
information developed for the Crossroads proposal. Mr. Hopkins pointed out the differences in
costs between privately and publicly built projects. If the County builds, we’re subject to the Wicks
Law, prevailing wage rates, and so on, while the IDA is not. A metal building shell space would need to be
finished out. Mr. Margeson noted that a
tentative floor plan would be developed, and Maintenance could accomplish some
of the smaller jobs, but we would want to get quotes from private contractors
for the bulk of it. It was mentioned
that Alfred Tech’s construction program students could be asked to complete the
finish work; the County would buy materials and give them the opportunity to
build our design. Ms. Mashtare pointed
out that the County would need to ensure code compliances and be aware of state
requirements, as sometimes there is a need for NYS Department of Health
approval of floor plans.
Comments were also offered on the possibility of leasing
other existing space. It was noted that
Office for the Aging and the Senior Foundation have explored options for other
properties, but couldn’t work anything out.
The actual space that would be needed by Office for the
Aging, Veterans’ Service Agency, and NY Connects Single Point of Entry Program
was discussed and compared with currently occupied spaces. Mr. Margeson pointed out that space
requirements are set based on the functions of the staff occupying the spaces. Some spaces need to be larger for
interviewing and conferences. Office for
the Aging also has storage issues for Meals on Wheels and Nutrition supplies,
for which they currently use a storage shed and basement. Mr. Foels commented that a stand-alone unit
is necessary for confidentiality. Office
for the Aging’s confidentiality needs may not be as stringent as the Courts’,
but would require “ownership” of their area.
Mr. O’Grady noted that even though this would be good, it might not be
what we can afford at the same time as building the new Courthouse.
Mr.
Foels was requested to give an update on the Crossroads space option at the
June 4 meeting of the Court Facilities and County Space Needs Committee.
Mr.
Margeson was requested to obtain information from the
Executive Session:
A motion was made at 4:20 by Fanton, seconded by
NEXT MEETING:
June 4, 2008 at 3:00 p.m.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 5:02 p.m. following
a motion made by
Respectfully submitted by
Adele Finnemore, Journal
Clerk